Comments on: Sex offenders four times more likely to be arrested for another sex crime: Crime statistics http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/ Information on Crime, Crime Statistics, Crime Rates, Violent Crime, Crime News, Crime Prevention Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:01:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: admin http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-5345 admin Sat, 01 Jan 2011 21:10:29 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-5345 Hi Thanks for writing. It may also indicate that sex crimes are under-reported. Our experience (through polygraph tests while in treatment) is that people who commit sex crimes routinely report others unknown to the criminal justice system. Best, Adam. Hi Thanks for writing. It may also indicate that sex crimes are under-reported. Our experience (through polygraph tests while in treatment) is that people who commit sex crimes routinely report others unknown to the criminal justice system. Best, Adam.

]]> By: No-one http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-5211 No-one Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:51:52 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-5211 Everybody researching sex offense stats in the US eventually runs across http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsorp94.pdf but how come no one ever talks about a very real statistic found in Page 1:Highlights:paragraph 3 - During the study 517 sex offenders were rearrested for sex crimes and 3,328 non-sex offending felons were arrested for sex crimes, the sex offenders accounted for only 7.4% of the arrests for sex offenses during the study. This might indicate a flaw in the penal system as there seem to be more sex offenders coming out than there are going in. It could also suggest that sex crime laws target the wrong threat. Everybody researching sex offense stats in the US eventually runs across http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsorp94.pdf but how come no one ever talks about a very real statistic found in Page 1:Highlights:paragraph 3 – During the study 517 sex offenders were rearrested for sex crimes and 3,328 non-sex offending felons were arrested for sex crimes, the sex offenders accounted for only 7.4% of the arrests for sex offenses during the study. This might indicate a flaw in the penal system as there seem to be more sex offenders coming out than there are going in. It could also suggest that sex crime laws target the wrong threat.

]]> By: admin http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-4167 admin Mon, 13 Dec 2010 01:35:52 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-4167 Hi Sam: Thanks for writing. Agreed, the overall data for recidivism for "reported" crime is low. But we are measuring "reported" crime and sex offenses, traditionally, are one of the "least" reported crimes, especially among minors. Sex offender with predatory crimes routinely report additional sex crimes (established via polygraph tests). Best, Adam. Hi Sam: Thanks for writing. Agreed, the overall data for recidivism for “reported” crime is low. But we are measuring “reported” crime and sex offenses, traditionally, are one of the “least” reported crimes, especially among minors. Sex offender with predatory crimes routinely report additional sex crimes (established via polygraph tests).
Best, Adam.

]]> By: Sam Caldwell http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-4163 Sam Caldwell Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:19:04 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-4163 There are many other recidivism studies from various bodies authorized by the legislatures of the several states which are showing consistently LOW recidivism rates among sex offenders when compared to all felony offenders. As of 2010 the collection of available recidivism studies since 1983 has shown an average 9% recidivism among sex offenders compared to non-sex offenders (who average 42%). There are many other recidivism studies from various bodies authorized by the legislatures of the several states which are showing consistently LOW recidivism rates among sex offenders when compared to all felony offenders. As of 2010 the collection of available recidivism studies since 1983 has shown an average 9% recidivism among sex offenders compared to non-sex offenders (who average 42%).

]]> By: admin http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-3759 admin Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:56:15 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-3759 Hi Valigator: Thanks for writing. See our comments on your previous message. Adam. Hi Valigator: Thanks for writing. See our comments on your previous message. Adam.

]]> By: admin http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-3758 admin Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:54:35 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-3758 Hi Valigator: Thanks for writing. Your comments (thoughtful and well written) reflect the perceptions of the average American. Citizens want access to lists like these and that, for us, is the bottom line. But we all need to recognize that supervision and treatment does work for some (not all) sex offenders. If the vast majority of people convicted of sex offenses are on community supervision, tools are needed to manage them. While registries are important and justified, we need to bring additional resources to the table if we are going to protect society. Best, Adam. Hi Valigator: Thanks for writing. Your comments (thoughtful and well written) reflect the perceptions of the average American. Citizens want access to lists like these and that, for us, is the bottom line.
But we all need to recognize that supervision and treatment does work for some (not all) sex offenders. If the vast majority of people convicted of sex offenses are on community supervision, tools are needed to manage them. While registries are important and justified, we need to bring additional resources to the table if we are going to protect society.
Best, Adam.

]]> By: Valigator http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-3755 Valigator Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:50:58 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-3755 I noticed "sexoffenderissues" didn't like this little study..kinda throws a wrench in your "we just got a raw deal" repertoire of excuses..face it guys, you can hoot and holler till the cows come home, you made the list and all the weasel clauses in the world isn't going to make you stand any taller or convince the public "your really good guys"? Your convictions ranks highest on the list of what a successful society deems the most reprehensible to the well being of its citizens. Think about it, you jeopardize your freedoms, your names, your reputations and your families for no other reason than the opportunity to "get off" call it what it is and stop trying to wrap a pink bow around it. Its getting old..and the troubling fact is, as a group you try and quote constitutional laws, re-offend rates in YOUR FAVOR , and make any and all attempts to twist the registries intent with the "Registry never saved one child" theory..Read my lips, the Registry was not intended to SAVE children, it was intended to inform communities of those who have a predisposition to commit sexually based crimes..Face it, you want the registry abolished due to the fact that when states really go full steam on 'true Romeos being able to petition off the registry" the majority of you cant because your crime doesnt meet the criteria" and in the aftermath ? The public will finally grasp the fact, your just a bunch of opportunist that used the vulnerable or defenseless for your own selfish sexual gratification.. I noticed “sexoffenderissues” didn’t like this little study..kinda throws a wrench in your “we just got a raw deal” repertoire of excuses..face it guys, you can hoot and holler till the cows come home, you made the list and all the weasel clauses in the world isn’t going to make you stand any taller or convince the public “your really good guys”? Your convictions ranks highest on the list of what a successful society deems the most reprehensible to the well being of its citizens. Think about it, you jeopardize your freedoms, your names, your reputations and your families for no other reason than the opportunity to “get off” call it what it is and stop trying to wrap a pink bow around it. Its getting old..and the troubling fact is, as a group you try and quote constitutional laws, re-offend rates in YOUR FAVOR , and make any and all attempts to twist the registries intent with the “Registry never saved one child” theory..Read my lips, the Registry was not intended to SAVE children, it was intended to inform communities of those who have a predisposition to commit sexually based crimes..Face it, you want the registry abolished due to the fact that when states really go full steam on ‘true Romeos being able to petition off the registry” the majority of you cant because your crime doesnt meet the criteria” and in the aftermath ? The public will finally grasp the fact, your just a bunch of opportunist that used the vulnerable or defenseless for your own selfish sexual gratification..

]]> By: Valigator http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-3754 Valigator Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:45 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-3754 I read that study with a fine tooth comb and no matter how you slice it or dice it, the numbers are compelling even when you add all the variables in the mix (of which their are plenty) at the end of the published data they include the caveat of (unavailable) data from various 15 states they looked at. Meaning they used what they had and determined all their numbers overall were underestimated in many categories. The bottom line? We are not talking about stealing hubcaps here, we are trying to count a crime that cant be fully counted due to a myriad of reasons. Sex offenders and their advocates will troll any forum to discount recidivsim rates, they love to tout that sex offenders have the lowest re-offend rates..as the study indicated, "it depends what kind of offender we are talking about and since our illustrious Judicial loves to throw them all out onto our laps? Its safe to assume and expect they are ALL dangerous and need a tight collar and a short leash. The general public should look at conviction dates also, if a guy or woman finds themselves on the registry anytime within the last couple of years? You can bank it wasnt for the infamous "underage girlfriend " or urinating on a tree" excuse. The registry and the crimes that will land you on it, have been fine tuned and after plea deals, budget cuts ect..you can figure what ever poor excuse for DNA who finds his picture on it now should be sitting in a cell, not complaining about how close to a school he can live.. I read that study with a fine tooth comb and no matter how you slice it or dice it, the numbers are compelling even when you add all the variables in the mix (of which their are plenty) at the end of the published data they include the caveat of (unavailable) data from various 15 states they looked at. Meaning they used what they had and determined all their numbers overall were underestimated in many categories. The bottom line? We are not talking about stealing hubcaps here, we are trying to count a crime that cant be fully counted due to a myriad of reasons. Sex offenders and their advocates will troll any forum to discount recidivsim rates, they love to tout that sex offenders have the lowest re-offend rates..as the study indicated, “it depends what kind of offender we are talking about and since our illustrious Judicial loves to throw them all out onto our laps? Its safe to assume and expect they are ALL dangerous and need a tight collar and a short leash. The general public should look at conviction dates also, if a guy or woman finds themselves on the registry anytime within the last couple of years? You can bank it wasnt for the infamous “underage girlfriend ” or urinating on a tree” excuse. The registry and the crimes that will land you on it, have been fine tuned and after plea deals, budget cuts ect..you can figure what ever poor excuse for DNA who finds his picture on it now should be sitting in a cell, not complaining about how close to a school he can live..

]]> By: admin http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-1202 admin Tue, 15 Jun 2010 01:00:15 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-1202 Hi Samantha: Thanks for your questions. The research is straight from Bureau of Justice Statistics, US Department of Justice data sets which are very large and well regarded. I "think" you are objecting to the small numbers of sex offenders rearrested for sex crimes and feel that the ratio is misleading. Please note that the vast majority of sex offending is never reported to law enforcement and to those of us within the system, we are aware that sex offenders are responsible for much larger numbers than the data indicates, and that's why we chose to use the ratio presented. We appreciate your interest. CIA staff. Hi Samantha: Thanks for your questions. The research is straight from Bureau of Justice Statistics, US Department of Justice data sets which are very large and well regarded.
I “think” you are objecting to the small numbers of sex offenders rearrested for sex crimes and feel that the ratio is misleading.
Please note that the vast majority of sex offending is never reported to law enforcement and to those of us within the system, we are aware that sex offenders are responsible for much larger numbers than the data indicates, and that’s why we chose to use the ratio presented.
We appreciate your interest. CIA staff.

]]> By: Samantha Ruth http://crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/11/sex-offenders-four-times-more-likely-to-be-arrested-for-another-sex-crime-crime-statistics/#comment-1180 Samantha Ruth Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:12:48 +0000 http://crimeinamerica.net/?p=1230#comment-1180 "WASHINGTON, D.C.—Within 3 years following their 1994 state prison release,( 5.3 percent of sex offenders (men who had committed rape or sexual assault) were rearrested for another sex crime,) the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today. If (all crimes )are included, 43 percent of sex offenders were rearrested for various offenses." I am just a lay person and when I look at statistical data without charts it is not always completely clear. But your title leads one to believe that sex offenders are 4x as likely to committee a new sex offense. This is slightly clarified when the statement that 43% may be re arrested for any crime while the other prison population's recidivism rate is 63%, for all new crime for give me but this does not add up. It would appear that aprox 95% of all new sex crimes would come from someplace other than those already in the system, would it not? So if 5% of sex offenders reoffend and 43% of thier total return to some sort of crime that would mean does only 38% were charged with some other type of crime, as apposed to the 63% of all offenders your title states: "Sex offenders four times more likely to be arrested for another sex crime: Crime statistics" so how is 38% 4 x 68% So when you take the overall whole of the apx 277,000 of all offenders as apposed 9700 arrested sex offenders, which would pose a lager danger to our community, the over 150,000 from the general population who robe cheat steal do drugs commit domestic violence murder DUI and on and on or the aprox 290 if I am close repeat sex offenders who now are probably in jail for some considerable amount of time as a 2x sex offender. So just what is this site about cause I don't GET It this appears to be a stretching of the truth and a mis representation and interpretation of those facts as I look at them. SR “WASHINGTON, D.C.—Within 3 years following their 1994 state prison release,( 5.3 percent of sex offenders (men who had committed rape or sexual assault) were rearrested for another sex crime,)
the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today. If (all crimes )are included, 43 percent of sex offenders were rearrested for various offenses.”

I am just a lay person and when I look at statistical data without charts it is not always completely clear. But your title leads one to believe that sex offenders are 4x as likely to committee a new sex offense. This is slightly clarified when the statement that 43% may be re arrested for any crime while the other prison population’s recidivism rate is 63%, for all new crime for give me but this does not add up. It would appear that aprox 95% of all new sex crimes would come from someplace other than those already in the system, would it not? So if 5% of sex offenders reoffend and 43% of thier total return to some sort of crime that would mean does only 38% were charged with some other type of crime, as apposed to the 63% of all offenders your title states:
“Sex offenders four times more likely to be arrested for another sex crime: Crime statistics”
so how is 38% 4 x 68% So when you take the overall whole of the apx 277,000 of all offenders as apposed 9700 arrested sex offenders, which would pose a lager danger to our community, the over 150,000 from the general population who robe cheat steal do drugs commit domestic violence murder DUI and on and on or the aprox 290 if I am close repeat sex offenders who now are probably in jail for some considerable amount of time as a 2x sex offender. So just what is this site about cause I don’t GET It this appears to be a stretching of the truth and a mis representation and interpretation of those facts as I look at them.
SR

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